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Union Bay Improvement District claims “recent changes to acceptable levels of turbidity”

Since June 21, 2018, we have been waiting for a report from the Water Superintendent to provide details as to how the water is monitored and the levels of turbidity that are in excess of what is standard across all of Canada since 2013.  Five years completely ignoring the rules and this is the best they can do – telling you that if the reading exceeds 1. NTU, contact will be made with the Drinking Water Officer.

Why don’t they explain the hazards of turbidity?  Bacteria attaches itself to the particles from the turbidity and chlorine has no effect on this bacteria.  So for the last five years the turbidity level has exceeded 1. NTU multiple times and absolutely nothing was done by this Water Superintendent.  For those with compromised immune systems – this is unacceptable.

It was Trustee Kaljur that brought this up at the June 21, 2018 meeting and the bullies on this board have consistently attempted to shut her up because they knew they were not abiding by the guidelines to provide SAFE POTABLE WATER to you.

The Union Bay Improvement District cannot be trusted.

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Dysfunctional Union Bay Improvement District Trustees on full display Nov. 15, 2018

The video of the Nov. 15, 2018 meeting should be used for training on “How NOT to run a meeting”.  This Chair made all kinds of claims about his knowledge running meetings and Robert’s Rules.  He’s clueless – doesn’t now what ‘point of order’ means.  It’s a circus and they want to blame anyone who objects to their lack of knowledge and experience.

To add to their ignorance, they actually reconvened the meeting after adjourning it at the 12:39 mark, with no explanation when the the video resumes.  So now there are private meetings for those who are told to hang around after the meeting is adjourned for regular folk.

Look at the ridiculous ‘point of order’ brought up by the regular instigator – this guy just can’t shut up at a meeting and the ignorant chair allows these clowns to take over the meetings because he doesn’t know what ‘point of order’ means!  Look how many times this guy speaks out of turn, even turns on the Goat reporter telling him to stop taking pictures.  Who’s been patting him on the head telling him how smart he is???

Then we have this contribution by someone who can hardly put two sentences together hurling personal insults at the only female on this lousy board – and again a useless chair who sits by and lets these bullies go full tilt.

 

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Of course Island Health is unconcerned – when has the Water Superintendent advised them of turbidity?

The post below is concerning water reports backing up my comment at the bottom of James Wood’s article.  Great reporter!

https://allthingsunionbay.com/2018/10/07/providing-safe-potable-water-to-landowners-should-be-the-priority-of-the-union-bay-improvement-district-trustees-nope/

MEDICAL OFFICER UNCONCERNED ABOUT UNION BAY TURBIDITY, DESPITE TRUSTEE DISAGREEMENTS


UNION BAY, B.C- Island Health is not sounding any alarms about the water quality in Union Bay, despite concerns from at least one trustee in the area’s improvement district government.

In recent weeks, Union Bay Improvement District (UBID) trustee Susanna Kaljur has been raising concerns about the water system in the area, which eventually resulted in her being ejected from an October board meeting and a “safety message” being distributed from the chair of UBID, Ted Haraldson.

The message can be seen here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lE77Nu0uf8M2D1nELaQ_3aNG8UzURaSs/view

Kaljur has been seeking a report on the UBID water system’s turbidity measurements, and asking about the UBID procedures for issuing boil-water notices. In a statement in response to Haraldson’s message, Kaljur took issue with turbidity readings from the early months of 2017, which were above 1.0.

“Not providing a response with regards to the missing Water Report which is supposed to explain what UBID has done in the past when water measured from Langley Lake indicates greater than 1.0 NTU’s is unreasonable and undemocratic and possibly unsafe!” read part of Kaljur’s statement.

“As I have done for over a decade I will continue to boil my water. In summer I have drinking water delivered.  The fact is our current drinking water is both unfiltered and untreated (other than chlorine) and remains so until the treatment plant is functional.”

Kaljur wanted “accurate information” from the district about water management.

“Providing a thorough water report written by our Public works Superintendent explaining what specifically UBID does when NTU’s are greater than 1.0 including what extra testing is done and what are these tests measuring would be a necessary first step restoring public trust and accountability,” read Kaljur’s statement.

“This report should be simple and straight forward for the superintendent to prepare. The superintendent does all the testing and keeps records.  It is our water after all and we have a right to know what UBID does when NTU readings are greater than 1.0 NTU’s. Winter is approaching and the time for increased turbidity is coming.”

At the last public board meeting on November 15th, Haraldson indicated that report was coming.

“A report is coming out,” said Haraldson, at the time.

“It’s unfortunate that it didn’t come out today. It wasn’t coming today, but it was coming in the next number of days. It has been all done, it’s just a matter of bringing out. That report took a while, but it is on its way out.”

Meanwhile, Island Health has indicated nothing is wrong with the water quality in Union Bay.

That’s according to Charmaine Enns, a medical health officer with Island Health. The MyComoxValleyNow.comnewsroom had reached out to Island Health to get the official word on turbidity and Union Bay’s water system, and Enns supplied information.

According to Enn’s, Union Bay’s thresholds for unacceptable turbidity were changed in August of 2018, down to 1.0 NTU’s (Nephelometric Turbidity Units) from a previous level of 3.0.

NTU measurement is used to evaluate how much material is suspended in water.

“Drinking water decisions and turbidity have been an evolution over the last 20 years,” said Enns, in an emailed statement.

“Starting in 1999 we used Health Canada guidelines as the turbidity reference and with increasing science and evidence the expectations on water operators as it relates to turbidity has changed. Prior to the latest iteration of the turbidity decision tree, 2013, most of our water systems were operating with a range of 1-5 NTUs before the need to inform us or issue a BWN (boil water notice).  The 3 NTU was based on previous Health Canada recommendation and that has historically been the cutoff value for UBID.”

Enns indicated that boil water notices are done by water operators, after they either consult or notify Island Health based on their concerns.

“We can insist on a water supplier to issue an BWN or even bypass a water supplier but that would be quite exceptional,” said Enns.

“This of course assumes that we are aware of the need or issue, for example elevated NTUs.”

Enns indicated that UBID’s NTU readings were above 1.0 in late 2016 and early 2017, with readings of 1.6 in November of 2016 and 2.17 in February of 2017.

“The provincial turbidity decision tree had not been formally adopted at that time and a historically accepted 3 NTU was still the accepted threshold,” said Enns.

“It has taken us some time to ensure each water system has updated their operations with these expectations of turbidity of above one NTU resulting in a quick water assessment and discussion with us about next steps.  Not every NTU that exceeds 1 will result in a BWN.   That said, since the end of August of this year UBID is aware that we must be contacted with any NTU that exceeds one.”

Enns also told the MyComoxValleyNow.com newsroom that there have been no recent instances of NTU’s above one, even with rainy weather.

“Normally, we usually see higher turbidity in the earlier storm seasons in the fall,” said Enns.

“We were expecting to see it, in Langley Lake, and yet the water operator did not inform us of an NTU greater than one, and we have all confidence that they would.”

 

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Turbidity limit of 1 NTU is consistent across Canada – just not Union Bay

The Chair of UBID obviously has more authority than any other community in the entire country.  He has decided there is no problem with the water testing because Island Health hasn’t advised otherwise.  Still, there is no report from the water superintendent from June 21, 2018 when a motion was unanimously passed to have the water superintendent provide the board with explanations as to why the 2013 Turbidity Tree isn’t being adhered to.  No matter how high the turbidity has been – there has not been a boil water advisory.

Excerpt from this article quoting UBID Chair:  https://www.mycomoxvalleynow.com/45205/union-bay-trustees-meeting-dissolves-into-shouting-threats-to-call-police/

“Vancouver Island Health and Dan McGill are on top of this,” said Haraldson.

“Regarding turbidity testing and all the rest of it, that’s governed by Vancouver Island Health. If they’re not satisfied by the testing that goes on, they will inform Dan McGill, and changes will be made at that time. Vancouver Island, they do the ruling on that for water sources that are being used by the public.”

It appears the Regional District thinks water is not safe to drink when turbidity exceeds 1 NTU – but hey, I guess the Chair knows best.

From the FAQ’s on the Regional District website.

https://www.comoxvalleyrd.ca/sites/default/files/docs/Services/Water/wtp-backgrounder1_july_2018.pdf

 

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Union Bay Improvement District Meeting dissolves into shouting, threats to call police

https://www.mycomoxvalleynow.com/45205/union-bay-trustees-meeting-dissolves-into-shouting-threats-to-call-police/

UNION BAY TRUSTEES MEETING DISSOLVES INTO SHOUTING, THREATS TO CALL POLICE


UNION BAY, B.C- The elected officials of the Union Bay Improvement District are having trouble getting along.

Last night, the board held its regularly scheduled public meeting, which was attended by all the trustees. Due to UBID’s chief administrative officer Gordon Mason being sick, he was not in attendance, and UBID chair Ted Haraldson was supposed to have read the CAO’s report.

However, the meeting did not start smoothly. When the question of approving the minutes of October 18th came up, trustee Susanna Kaljur indicated she wanted to make a correction to the written record.

At that previous meeting, Kaljur had left after a disagreement with Haraldson and the other trustees over a report from the district’s public works manager, concerning practices about turbidity measurements and the issuing of boil-water notices.

Kaljur indicated she did not agree with the minutes as written, and desired for a correction to be read out by Haraldson and then voted on by the board on whether or not to include the correction.

She never did manage to get that correction read, due to multiple interruptions by other trustees which escalated into a yelling match between Kaljur and the rest of the board. At one point, Haraldson threatened to call the RCMP after indicating he wanted Kaljur removed.

After Kaljur left her seat from the trustee table and went to sit with the public, Haraldson adjourned the meeting. Kaljur and around three quarters of the people gathered at the meeting then left the room.

Immediately after the adjournment, Haraldson told the MyComoxValleyNow.com newsroom that the meeting was closed due to disruptions, not going by the rules and the UBID’s own bylaws.

“I will not let a meeting get out of control,” said Haraldson, at the time.

“No one, that is a chairman, should let a meeting get out of control. I’m very disappointed that we could not follow through with this meeting, and unfortunately it happened again.”

He said that landowners would be informed of the details contained in the CAO’s report, and had previously indicated that would be accomplished by posting the details on the UBID website.

He also indicated that the report Kaljur had been seeking would be coming out in the near future.

“A report is coming out,” said Haraldson.

“It’s unfortunate that it didn’t come out today. It wasn’t coming today, but it was coming in the next number of days. It has been all done, it’s just a matter of bringing out. That report took a while, but it is on its way out.”

As for whether or not he would speak with higher levels of government to try to work out the chaotic UBID meetings, Haraldson said “we have choices that can be made”.

“Those will be followed through if necessary, I’m hoping not,” said Haraldson.

“I’m hoping trustee Kaljur can get on the same page with the rest of us. She is a smart gal, and I’m sure that she can contribute to the rest of us if she wanted to, but unfortunately, she doesn’t seem to want to do that. I don’t know why. I really hope that she does.”

After that statement, Haraldson was approached by trustee Peter Jacques, who asked to resume the meeting. The gathered trustees, minus Kaljur, returned to their seats and the meeting got underway.

Kaljur and the residents who left did not return during the rest of the meeting.

During Haraldson’s reading of the CAO’s report, it was stated that the water treatment plant project is on-schedule, with design work ongoing and construction planned for February and March.

A “source to tap” report on UBID’s water system is also in the works, and the district has been having productive meetings with Island Timberlands about efforts to protect Langley Lake from any ill effects caused by nearby logging.

The reading of the reports and the rest of the resumed meeting proceeded without disruption, and it ended after trustee’s voted to cancel the December 20th meeting as it appeared many people would be on vacation.

Reached afterwards for comment, Haraldson said Kaljur’s concerns about turbidity were misinformation.

“Vancouver Island Health and Dan McGill are on top of this,” said Haraldson.

“Regarding turbidity testing and all the rest of it, that’s governed by Vancouver Island Health. If they’re not satisfied by the testing that goes on, they will inform Dan McGill, and changes will be made at that time. Vancouver Island, they do the ruling on that for water sources that are being used by the public.”

As for the shutdown of Kaljur’s attempts to raise her concerns about the previous meeting minutes, Haraldson believed what had transpired was appropriate.

“I think that was appropriate because she wasn’t there, and making a correction, to try to turn around and make it sound like something else, is not right,” said Haraldson.

“It was recorded, and put out in the minutes the way it happened.”

He also said there had been a show of hands and a vote to pass the previous meeting minutes.

As for what he planned to do to resolve the differences between Kaljur and the rest of the board, Haraldson stated there were “are number of directions they could go”.

“Legally, I can have her removed,” said Haraldson.

“I don’t have a sergeant of arms here, I can turn around and hire a sergeant of arms and have her bodily removed, but what’s the point? What is the point? The thing is, it’s the disruption of the meeting. The people that are here, I would like them to hear these minutes. Some of the people stayed here, and listened to the minutes. The rest, left. That’s the division of the community, that’s the unfortunate part.”

He indicated he was willing to have called the RCMP, if he thought it was needed.

Haraldson also indicated he had issues with the way Kaljur communicated to other levels of government, independently of him. Under UBID rules, he indicated, communications are supposed to pass through the chair.

“Any correspondence that she wants to pass on to the ministry (Municipal Affairs), goes through the chair,” said Haraldson.

“She breaks those bylaws all the time. I get emails from her, going to the minister at the same time. It’s very unfortunate. She does not go through the chair. That is an issue, and she continues to do so. What am I supposed to do? I don’t really have to do anything, because at the other end, the ministry, they’re not even paying attention to any of this anymore. They’ve had enough. It’s unfortunate. We just have to get on with it, get the job done at hand, and that is our water treatment plant. That is our objective, to get that done.”

As for whether or not he would reach out to higher levels of government to discuss what had happened at the meeting, Haraldson said it was a possibility.

“Whether it can be resolved or not, I do not know,” said Haraldson.

“This has been going on through two chairmen, the chairman before me as well as myself. It’s a ploy, and it’s disruptive, and that seems to be the ploy that is being used. I’m sorry, I won’t put up with it.”

The MyComoxValleyNow.com newsroom sought comment from Municipal Affairs, who sent the following statement.

“The ministry acknowledges that the Union Bay Improvement District Trustees have had disagreements on issues affecting their community,” read the statement.

“Ultimately, the trustees are responsible for the management of their meetings, and are accountable to landowners for their decisions and conduct in those meetings.”

“Ministry staff have been available to provide advice and have encouraged UBID to seek neutral consulting assistance. The ministry continues to be available to UBID administration to provide advice or discuss matters with them.”

“Specific questions about efforts by the trustees to improve their working relationships should be directed to the Union Bay Improvement District, as they are in the best position to comment on the details of such matters.”

Comment was also sought from Kaljur, who replied with the following statement.

“Firstly all the trustees should be given training in deliberative process,” said Kaljur.

“The Board (minus Ted Haraldson) had one day training but this board has not put into practise what was learned. The minutes do not resemble what actually happened. The board does not follow Roberts Rules. I have asked for an independent investigation into allegations (without evidence) of harassment made against me.”

Kaljur also said the board of trustees does not want her opinion to be heard.

“That is unconstitutional,” read her statement.

“The remedy for this is simple; follow the rules, allow me to express my opinion unmolested, out vote me and then move on. That is all that is needed. I do have a voice and all I ask is to be heard, not agreed with, just heard.”

The video recording of the November 15th meeting will be made available on the UBID website.

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Union Bay Improvement District Gong Show responsibility lies with the Chair

A chuckle.  Christmas decorations going up  – wonder if the people who put up the Star of David with their Christmas decorations are aware.  This from last December.

The UBID Chair has claimed knowledge and experience with Robert’s Rules.  Then why doesn’t he control the meeting according to Robert’s Rules?  Why does the Chair allow other trustees to call ‘point of order’ and then those same trustees do not advise what rules are being broken?  The Chair loses control every meeting because certain trustees are hell bent on not allowing Trustee Kaljur to even finish speaking.

What rules were being broken when the usual interrupter called a ‘point of order’ stating that Trustee Kaljur shouldn’t be allowed to amend the minutes as she sees fit?  This isn’t proper ‘point of order’, this is a trustee voicing his opinion on the matter.   How was Trustee Kaljur breaking any rules according to Robert’s Rules?  That’s what the interrupting trustee was supposed to address when making his ‘point of order’ but no one can tell this guy anything.  Loves to hear his own voice.

Trustee Kaljur didn’t break any rules – it’s a tactic this same interrupting trustee uses and then speaks over everyone wanting to put forth a motion and then asks for a seconder with the Chair allowing these outbursts.  It’s the Chair’s responsibility to run an organized meeting and the UBID one is not up to the job.  The UBID Chair wants to lay the blame on the only trustee who believes in democracy, transparency and accountability asking important questions on behalf of those she was elected to serve.  The dysfunction is the norm with the UBID board.

The only way these clowns are ever going to be able to run a meeting is with training.  Nothing is going to change because they believe they KNOW everything without any instructions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_of_order

In Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised (RONR), a point of order may be raised if the rules appear to have been broken. This may interrupt a speaker during debate, or anything else if the breach of the rules warrants it.[1] The point is resolved before business continues.

The point of order calls upon the chair to make a ruling. The chair may rule on the point of order or submit it to the judgment of the assembly. If the chair accepts the point of order, it is said to be ruled “well taken”. If not, it is said to be ruled “not well taken”

https://robertsrules.org

  • Point of Order: Infraction of the rules, or improper decorum in speaking. Must be raised immediately after the error is made

https://www.dummies.com/careers/business-skills/roberts-rules-for-raising-a-point-of-order/

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