(If you’re too dumb to click on the images on this site to view at full resolution, you must be from Union Bay)
Water, water everywhere and not a drop for KIP!
“He is willing to front the money that would normally be accessed on each property as Capital Expenditure Charges (CEC), so we can have our treatment plant right away.”
That is correct. What the developer is offering is to pay for the temporary water treatment plant with the money normally collected in CEC’s. This is not a gift to the community, it’s KIP Costanza getting a credit until as the writer puts it “once the treatment plant is paid down”.
“Union Bay stands to make a lot of money from this development since they will still be collecting CEC’s once the treatment plant is paid down.”
Well, what happens when the treatment plant must be moved? I believe Trustee Alan Webb covered this at the June 17, UBID Board meeting. https://allthingsunionbay.com/2015/06/17/union-bay-improvement-district-meeting-june-17-2015-and-kip-supporters-presentation/ (position 14:30 in part one)
It’s on Kip Costanza’s land. Where will the money come from for the next phase? Will Kip Costanza get a credit for next phase as well? How will UBID ever collect CEC’s if KIP Costanza is given a write off at every phase?
“If Kensington manages to get their water from another source, Union Bay could be out in the cold for collecting CEC’s, the promised property for a new fire hall and any of the other amenities proposed.”
What other source? Didn’t we go through all this since 2006? Give your head a shake. KIP Costanza is determined to get the water from Langley Lake – why do you think it was illegally changed which resulted in the successful lawsuit by BSASS http://www.comoxvalleyrd.ca/assets/Department/Documents/KIP_Court_Decision_20090428.pdf#search=”baynes%20sound%20area%20sustainability ? The decision wasn’t appealed (with good reason), instead the RD held a meeting where anyone could support KIP Costanza including companies and employees of businesses who had worked for KIP Costanza including some in Calgary. That’s how much KIP Costanza wants to help the residents of Union Bay. KIP Costanza will promise anything but will deliver none, same old same old. If there’s water in that old well west of Tappin St. they tested last year – good on them. Go ahead, see how many homes of the 3300 plus doors will be supported by other sources.
KIP Costanza is not trying to help the residents of Union Bay. Give your fucking head a shake. Stop referring to the development as a human – this is about making the biggest profit possible, and if that involves sucking in the brain dead to support the project, that’s what will be done. Was KIP Costanza trying to help the residents of Union Bay when involving the KFN’s to oppose Union Bay acquiring the piece of land at the top of McLeod Rd for our water reservoir? KIP Costanza is just another fucking slimy developer surrounding itself with dolts who drink the koolaid.
Get off your high horses about how bad the water is and the supposed urgency for filtration. This is the country. If the water discolours your bathroom – clean it more often. We wouldn’t be in this position if it hadn’t been for the KIP Costanza development in the first place. Slimy Kip Costanza is nothing but a bag full of bullshit.
KIP Costanza is like a vampire wanting to suck the life out of Union Bay, only it’s not blood – it’s water. Kip Costanza is an absentee landowner – doesn’t live in the community and has no intention but likes to flex it’s muscles as the largest landowner forcing Union Bay to comply to its wishes.
What developer expects a community to supply water to 3300 plus doors in exchange for a piece of land for a firehall? That’s what it boils down to. The development needs treated water – our water. Giving the developer a credit and calling it a gift is ridiculous.
The idiots that negotiated the original WIA should be embarrassed and stop misleading the residents of Union Bay.
- 1. “in negotiations with the Government to formulate an agreement to remediate the coal hills.” Is KIP Costanza still in negotiations to formulate an agreement to remediate the coal hills?
- 2. “a mere 4 months” Did KIP Costanza come to an agreement with the Government to remediate the coal hills within those 4 months?
- 3. “lawyer says he will win if it goes to court….” Do you think Kip Costanza will be launching any lawsuits especially regarding lack of water with the bad press it would bring to potential buyers/investors while trying to flip this property?
- 4. “Legally, this contract has not expired as the developer is still trying to get this extension.” The 4 month extension? Did KIP Costanza reach an agreement to remediate the coal hills?
- 5. If KIP Costanza received the 4 month extension, does that mean KIP Costanza reached an agreement to remediate the coal hills?
- 6. Does the author know if an agreement was reached to remediate the coal hills? If not, this is just another in the long list of ploys used by KIP Costanza to delay, postpone, blame agencies, governments, etc.
- 7. Is the author KIP Costanza?
From CVRD Meeting Tuesday, May 26, 2015 http://agendaminutes.comoxvalleyrd.ca/agendas/default.aspx?MeetingID=1956&PrinterVersion=0&DocumentTypeID=1&AgendaDeadline=5/22/2015
THAT the board send a letter to the Minister of Forest, Lands and Natural Resource Operations requesting a status update on the Union Bay coal hills remediation process and works as well as next steps in the process.
For all this fuss about 4 months and how awful poor KIP Costanza is being treated – I want to know if an agreement was reached to remediate the coal hills. If KIP Costanza is still “in negotiations with the Government to formulate an agreement to remediate the coal hills” that means KIP Costanza has been bullshitting AGAIN!
Maybe, KIP Costanza came to an agreement to negotiate to formulate an idea to reach an agreement to decide who will pay the costs if an agreement is reached to remediate the coal hills.
It’s time to give credit to the Board of Trustees of the Union Bay Improvement District. Have to say I’m actually hopeful Union Bay has five individuals who are truly working in the best interests of the community.
It’s been a long time coming. This Board made mistakes in the beginning, but appears to have pulled through determined to make positive changes that will benefit the entire community.
(hope I don’t have to eat those words!)
Nothing is worse than what we previously had. Beef to those ignorant KIP Costanza supporters.
Beefs and Bouquets July 17, 2015. http://www.comoxvalleyecho.com/opinion/beefs-bouquets
Another crying Kensingtion Island KIP Costanza supporter educating us on the legal aspect of the expired WIA.
The writer could easily be KIP Costanza since KIP avoids putting things in writing with a signature.
I call bullshit on the “took over a year to work out with lawyers for both sides…..” The negotiations didn’t begin until early 2011 and the 2 Trustees who were kept in the dark about the negotiations first learned when they received the rough draft in March 2011. The deal was rushed through because the existing buddy board of KIP Costanza knew they would lose control and be dumped to the curb in April 2011 at the AGM.
According to the F. Lee Bailey wannabe, KIP Costanza has 2 1/2 more years! This person sounds as bright as those folks who brought us the Fake Union Bay Residents’ Association, the purchase of the School Property without clear title and the original WIA agreement. Those same folks who locked out the electorate now begging for support for their saviour of Union Bay – KIP Costanza.
Some more documents for those interested in KIP Costanza. These are very large pdf’s and technical.
The coal hill waste site reflects years of man-made pollution of the coal production in the area. The list of contaminated materials includes the following: copper, arsenic, cadmium, lead, zinc, barium, mercury, chromium, manganese, aluminum, and iron; all in excess of the safe standards for BC Contaminated Sites Regulations. There are also elevated arsenic and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (this is a long chain carbon that doesn’t break down in water and thus has a long-term toxicity). In addition, chemicals present at the coal hills (acenaphthene, anthrasene, chrysene, fluorine, 2 methylnaphthalene, naphthalene and phenanthrene) are in excess of BC Sediment Quality Criteria.
To view the numbers provided in the following pdf’s click the enlarge button repeatedly to zoom in.
@Paul: The only change I’ve seen since 1994 is the reshaping of the east side for Washer Creek and the use of SkyRocket as a topping in the same area.
Truckloads of rock/gravel were also brought in the flat area just beyond the KIP shack. Some of this material has since been trucked out for use behind the Post Office.