This video is from Sept. 2015. Listen to the whining again about UBID not negotiating while still claiming to have a valid agreement. This is after KIP’s flunkies took around a petition demanding UBID give KIP an extension on a expired agreement at the June UBID meeting, and before he got his buddy McRae to assist with a whining meeting with Minister Fassbender, and before the meeting in Victoria in Dec. 2015 where he threw a hissy fit. “Mr. McMahon replied that no he is not given he already has an active and binding agreement in place which he is adamant has not expired.“
I couldn’t believe that landowners were lapping up the falsehoods stated by this developer in Mar. 2016. How could a hall full of people still support someone who claimed UBID wouldn’t negotiate with them at the same time insisting they still had a valid agreement – which means they aren’t going to negotiate? Really, how can people be so thick?
15 years of stringing the community along and still landowners believe ole slick.
Here’s Kip claiming the then Chair sent out emails to disrupt the KIP meeting. Always dividing the community.
KIP made claims that the hydro alone for the land identified by his own consultants that the then board had purchased would cost $300,000. to $500,000. – just to get hydro to the site. Nothing to back up those claims. Why was this developer so dead set against UBID building on that land? His flunkies obliged by building on the size of the land KIP told them was large enough and the location KIP wanted. His flunkies ignored the future needs of Union Bay and sold the 20 acres back to the original seller to ensure the plant would not be built near Langley Lake.
The Chair at the time spoke to the landowners explaining it was a legal process and a new agreement was required. Just the facts – a stark contrast to the bullshit spewed by KIP.
Another trustee from that time asks when will KIP sit down and negotiate.
Another landowner asks would KIP negotiate a new agreement.
“My lawyer said if we go to court on this, we would win,” said McMahon.
This quote confirms UBID would not have owned the temporary plant until we had a permanent treatment plant. All those claims of $1.7 and multiple other numbers thrown out with the 2011 WIA supposedly was a gift to the community and then later an interest free loan. It wasn’t either and yet KIP was going to get CEC credits for something KIP owned. That’s what you get when trustees negotiate.
KIP maintains its position on the temporary upgrades on KIP site would be owned by KIP until transferred to the permanent site at which time title would also be transferred to UBID
The audio clip below is from March 2016 when Kip held a meeting at the Community Hall dividing the community further with falsehoods. KIP VP’s version of the meeting that took place in Victoria Dec. 1, 2015. Doesn’t resemble the minutes taken does it?
The Molstad Board had hired a professional negotiator, Steven Kelliher, and a water expert, Hew McConnell, to represent UBID in obtaining a new agreement since the 2011 WIA expired Dec. 31, 2014. Given the disastrous 2011 WIA was negotiated by a couple of trustees, the Molstad board wasn’t about to repeat that mistake.
The 2 experts hired by UBID along with UBID’s Administrator met with KIP and his counsel Mark Lewis at a planned meeting Dec. 1, 2015 to negotiate a new water agreement. The trustees did not attend the meeting as they had hired the experts and UBID’s knowledgable Admin were all that was required.
In the clip below you will hear KIP VP, Brian McMahon tell his version of what took place at that meeting. This developer stood up in front of the community and intentionally misled them as to what took place.
McMahon loves to play the victim. It’s always everybody else who is holding things up. Year after year whining and making up excuses for not following through on just about everything promised since 2005. The arrogance of this developer and his lawyer are on full display in this memorandum. McMahon has always insisted the 2011 WIA was still in effect and that’s the attitude he and his counsel went with in this meeting.
KIP couldn’t deal with professionals and knew the only hope was to get rid of the trustees standing in the way. Turn the community against Molstad’s board and install his flunkies to do his bidding. KIP got exactly that negotiating with a board of five green trustees and an administrator with zero government experience in Oct. 2017. The Developer controlled what was going to be built, where and when.
A few snippets of the meeting.
Mr. Lewis indicated they are still taking the position they have an active, binding agreement in place with UBID.
Mr. Lewis indicated it’s the Developer who controls what is going to be built, where and when.
Mr. Lewis and Mr. McMahon asked that given the situation UBID finds itself in with respect to its facilities on leased land it doesn’t own, a lease under which it continues to be in default what is the “non-fiction” plan?
Mr. Lewis followed up by stating the Developer is the bank, funds continue to sit in a trust account ready to be spent under the WIA and UBID has continued to say no to an extension.
Mr. Lewis and Mr. McMahon indicated at this point that UBID is “beholden to the developer to a certain degree” and therefore this represents a unique situation that justifies their position.
Given the direction the discussion was taking, Mr. Kelliher asked Mr. McMahon directly if he is prepared to negotiate in good faith a new water service agreement with UBID.
Mr. McMahon replied that no he is not given he already has an active and binding agreement in place which he is adamant has not expired.
The Coal Hill is listed as one of the top 13 priority contaminated sites on Crown Land in BC.
Noticed KIP’s concept had white sandy beaches, so I fixed it for them. Might have been doable if it wasn’t on the OCEAN with tides! Anyone who has walked this area knows the erosion over the years has been significant. The work to stop the erosion is not going to result in gently sloping beach. That green mound is not a natural land feature and the ocean is slowly reclaiming the area.
Screwed up a couple of times. Tried out a new program to record the zoom meeting.
There is so much information in this meeting. More financial information. It is such a relief to hear Gary Nason provide guidance to the trustees and alert them to issues that could impact UBID. We have someone looking out for us instead of a board relying on KIP’s advice and just rubber stamping everything KIP related.
Will be making a post about the subdivision bylaw (mentioned in this meeting) history and how KIP manipulated his trustees to enforce an old bylaw in spite of a new one worked on for 2 years by the professional administrator during the Molstad board.
At the Regular Board meeting today, Trustee Haraldson was incorrect when he stated that according to the 2017 WIA the developer would pay for the second daf plant and also another water tower/reservoir. See the page below for confirmation this statement was false.